What is going on, guys? Sean Jared, it’s good to have you guys, how’s it going? Brothers, what’s going on? What’s going on? Good to see you, Jared, how you doing? I know you got the internet going on over there. Can you hear us? What’s up? It’s so bad. It’s choppy. It’s going great. Here. Perfect, perfect. Well, hey, we’re going to plow through this thing. Hey, if everybody’s watching this, my name is Nathan Payne.
I’ve been in the industry for about seven years now. I’ve done hundreds of wholesale deals. And what we’re gonna be talking about today is how to get leads for wholesaling real estate. That’s who I am, Sean. Tell us who you are, guys just quickly. I’m Sean Young out of Atlanta, Georgia. Been in the business now for a little over 10 years. I’ve done hundreds of deals, coached dozens and dozens, well, actually hundreds of students now, and we’re here to help you guys out here today. I love it, alright, Jared, if you got that, tell us who you are. Yeah, I’m Jared Franklin. I’ve been wholesaling Since 2019 done tons and tons of deals. I don’t know exactly how many, but because of wholesaling real estate and buying real estate, it’s afforded me to be able to live in South America. Absolutely love it good. You’re in South America. I’m moving to Canada. We’re going to be outside of the country.
My house actually just went under the due diligence period just ended today, so earnest money is going down, going to get hard. And, yeah, that’s exciting. You’re in Brazil, Canada. Sean, you’re in Atlanta, right? I’m in Atlanta. I’m in Atlanta. Bro, Atlanta. No, perfect, too. No plans are moving out of the country just yet for me. Stay where you are, man, stay where you I love it. So hey, again, everybody, why would you tune in these calls? Well, we’ve been doing real estate for a long time, and we like to get together, because we all have different experiences, and we all have different things that have worked for us. So today, we’re going to be discussing, in our opinions, what’s the best way how to get leads for wholesaling real estate. We’re going to break down what we suggest you should do, what we tell them, people we work with, and our promise, you guys, is by the end of this call, you’re going to know exactly what you should do, which works best for you to go and get some leads, because it all starts with leads. It all starts with conversations.
So if you don’t know how to start talking to sellers or who to talk to, this is where you should be. So let’s dive right into it, guys, this is a really important thing, right? Important topic. Because really, without a seller to talk to, without a lead, you really got nothing, right? Absolutely nothing, nothing at all, nothing at all. You gotta have them lead, man, this is all. This is a marketing game. This is a marketing and sales. So with that, with that being said, you definitely need leads. So I want to ask you guys a question. So a lot of people say that, right? This is a marketing, sales business. I feel like a lot of people that get in this business don’t really think that, right? They don’t think this is marketing at all. At least when I started, I just, I just, it was all real estate, baby, and all I had to do is, you know, flip a house or just focus on real estate, not marketing. So Sean, when did you realize and Jared, when did you guys realize this was just like a marketing heavy business, yeah. Man, like, right, right from the jump, actually.
Man, like I said, I once I got started, I had a little dip in my productivity, and it was due to my to my lack of having systems in place and having a follow up, you know, having a path to that follow up. So it’s super important that you have those things in place. But anyway, so for me, Sean, so when I first started, I didn’t know anything about marketing, right? I didn’t even think it was that important. So I thought it was all like having conversations with sellers, and you had to be like an amazing sales guy and have the best conversations, which is really important. But what I did is I focused so much on getting good at the conversation in the sales process, and I didn’t think leads was an issue. I was like, man, maybe I’m just not that good. But then as I got better at sales, I realized, man, I barely have any leads. I barely have anybody I’m talking to. So that’s when I realized, oh my gosh, I’ve been focusing on something that’s important, but no, the wrong thing. You don’t have any leads. It’s gonna be really hard to convert. So Sean, tell me about your experience with marketing, like, what, what was the first thing you did to start generating more and more leads? And I’ll talk about my experience, and we can even go into what we’re doing now. What we suggest, sure, guys, a good thing to do when you especially when you’re getting started, is list generation. You want to be able to go out and pull, you know, big lists.
You can do that a number of different ways. You can go to the county to pull specific lists, like, you know, tax lists, water shut off lists. I mean, there’s specific lists that we can get into, but you can get lists that way. You can also pay for lists from sources like batch, batch leads, prop stream, you know, the lot of different lead sources that you can purchase lists, get those lists, skip trace and then call on those leads. What Nathan mentioned earlier is that when he said, Hey, I was working on a, you know, the skill set of, you know, converting, which is, like you said, it’s super important, but without the opportunity to convert, you’re not going to convert. So that’s why we’re saying you got to have, you got to get a lot of you got to get in front of a lot of people. You got to talk to a lot of people, whether it’s, you know, getting in front of them, or on the telephone or by text. However you’re doing your outreach, the more people that you’re you know, reaching out to, the better your opportunities are to have a conversation. I love it. I love it. So I know the game in marketing has changed over the years. Man, because when I was doing when I first started, 2017 texting was huge, and that was a easy way to get deals. Bro, I don’t I know.
You probably got into a big with texting. I don’t do you still do it, mass texting. Yeah, texting, but it slowed down because of the regulations that came in place, you know, like last year, you know, and then, like, of course, at the beginning of this year, they really started to crack down on it. So, you know, we’ve gone a different route. But you know, you like, you say, we go through waves. When I actually first got started, the big thing was mailers. I literally spent like 320 bucks on mailers on my first mailing campaign, and got, ended up getting seven deals closed. I got 11 deals under contract and closed seven of those with 325 bucks. Could you do that today? I don’t think that’s freaking insane.
You spent $325 and got seven deals, seven deals closed, absolutely, bro, if that’s if it was that easy, now that would be the greatest thing in the world, 100% 100% and so reason, yeah, no, go ahead. Nathan, Well, check this out. So when I first started, I spent $10,000 on mailers in in Utah, didn’t get a single deal. So I don’t know market is really important too, right? Market, who you’re sending the mailers to, it’s not just like, hey, do you want to sell your house? And you’re going to get someone like, Yeah, I’m ready to sell. Let’s talk. It’s not always that case, right? You got to make sure you’re hitting the right people. So when, when it comes to getting leads, there’s so many different strategies, right? So I think you know you have to be dialed in on a strategy that you want to get good at and you want to master, because there’s so many different ways to go get leads. You can go you can be the the Pre Foreclosure guy. You can be short sale person, the guy.
You can be the tax lien person. You can you can niche down on a specific list and get really good at marketing to that list. One thing that I did, which I think was a mistake, is I pulled all these different strategies, all these different lists and a ton of them, and I didn’t really focus on getting good at the messaging for any of them. And my message was just like, do you want to sell? Do you want to sell? And that is very expensive, in my opinion. I don’t know if you agree with that, Sean, but I don’t like to pull a bunch of different lists and giant lists and they just plow through them because it’s expensive and it’s not very targeted. But Sean, your opinion, man, I agree with you 100% so, Nathan, let’s break that down a little bit. So you mentioned, like, specific type of list. I know that. You know, there’s code violation list, there’s tax lien list, you know, we’ve got a lot of different lists out there. What are your favorite lists to go after? Let, let’s say the top three.
What the top three list? You know, as a as a new person, that you think someone should go after? I’ll give you some of mine, but I want to hear yours as well. Yeah, man, pre foreclosures have always been tried and true for me. Those are people that, you know, they’re not always super motivated, right? You got to pull out, you got to, like, build the trust. But those are good probates. They’re going to sell. Those are people that don’t live in the home necessarily, and they don’t have any ties emotionally, the property and absentee owner is always a tried and true but absentee owner also usually have to go through quite a bit of data to get get somebody. So it really just depends on your strategy. If you’re, in my opinion, if you got a big cold calling team and you got to feed them, you got to have enough leads to do that. So that’s absentee owner.
That’s bigger list, high equity, but if you’re a smaller team, and you can go target people specifically, it’s probates, pre foreclosures, tax liens, where the lists are smaller, but you can get better. You can target them better and get a hold of them better. That’s my opinion. So those are the three. Yeah, you, Sean man, I agree with you 100% with what you just said, and I’m glad that you pointed that out, because a lot of people do just kind of go big, and they say, You know what, I’m just going to go pull a vacant list. You listen and tell me if you agree with this, I know that you agree with this, but I think that the best method you should try to use is what’s called, like, double stacking or or find Mo, you know, lists that have multiple pain points, right? Pain points, right? So, so let’s say they’re, they’re a probate and they’re, they’re, you’re absolutely and there’s some other motivations. So you want to try to look at lists like that when you’re trying to build your list, especially when you’re trying to niche them down, because if not, you’re going to have a big list. It’s going to take you a long time to get through them. It’s going to feel daunting.
You’re going to feel like I’m not getting nowhere. You’re not going to be directed or focused in your messaging to those leads, like Nathan said, because that’s a newbie mistake. That’s a newbie mistake. Once you start doing this for a little bit, you realize that you have to be very focused on your conversation. You don’t speak to an absentee owner the same way you speak to a probate, uh, excuse me, or pre foreclosure. You know, they’re in a different mindset. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got to be very empathetic to their situation. They’re going through some tough times. The landlord, the tired landlord, might not even he might just be tired. He’s like whatever. You know, he doesn’t live there. It’s not very emotional for him. But so what were the top three, in your opinion? Sean, then we’ll go to Jared on what he’s top three? Yeah, I think, I think pre foreclosures is a top one, absentee owners and and, like you say, I like to go with with the code violations. So I like code violation lists. And to me, the code violation is almost like a driving for dollars list, but you didn’t have to drive the city drove, right? And they’re the ones are like, hey, this this house, you know, quote violation.
It’s got the. Hall, grass, or whatever the the criteria is, in that city, I love it. Okay, what about you? Jared, yeah, yeah, I’ll unmute Jared. Jared, what’s up? Mine is driving for dollars. For dollars, driving for dollars, driving for dollars. That’s my favorite list. No question
for dollars. That list is much harder to get, but it’s even, even better if someone is just getting started. In fact, my first four or five deals were straight from skateboarding for dollars. In fact, I didn’t even drive. The reason I like that is you’re in the condition piece
of the motivation. So you know that there’s something already fishy with healing paint or something as crazy as like the roof is half blown off. But in my opinion, if you step your list where every prospect has higher chance, it diminishes the length of time for your marketing to take effect before you get a deal. And so for someone who’s just getting started, what I like about the DFD list driving for dollars list is two parts.
One is you need fewer prospects in your list to get a deal. And second is, by seeing so many as you drive, you start to see that in almost any neighborhood, maybe some that don’t have HOAs, you know, homeowner associations, but you’ve seen almost every neighborhood dates that that work, and it keeps you motivated and encouraged that, wow, there actually are lots of properties that need some love. And it keeps your mindset right to keep going for the marketing. Because as we start marketing and we start to cold call or send SMS or mail, we hear a lot of no’s, sometimes it’s easy to believe that maybe this doesn’t work, but you start to see, man, after 2000 houses that are all banged up, someone’s going to sell, right? And so I like, I like the the reinforcement, the positive reinforcement, comes from seeing where I can actually make a physical difference in the marketplace by seeing where these houses are.
Personally, it’s sort of like, like a DFT list. It does take some effort. It’s not as easy as just pulling a list from Prop stream or something. But you know that every single prospect on that list has a higher chance of a sale versus just any whatever list that everyone has? Yeah, no, I really like that. Sean, what do you what do you have? Anything you want to elaborate on that man? I think that Jared hit it right on the head. That was going to be my next, my next point I was going to make, I was going to say, Guys, if you actually the best thing to do, if you’re getting started, is to get in your car or get on your skateboard.
Get on your bike. No excuses, just get out there, drive around, ride around the community. Look for distressed properties, high grass, boarded up windows, you know, mailboxes knocked off or you know where the house looks out of place based upon other houses in the community, just like Jared said. And once you do that, you start to develop an eye for it, and you can start, basically, that’s what, that’s why we call it driving for dollars, because you’re actually looking for money opportunities out there, opportunities where you can add value to properties. Get those, you know, get those properties under contract, sell your contract to, you know, cash buyers or holding for yourself, if it makes sense. You know, whatever the scenario is, I think driving for dollars is is definitely underrated, and it it’s crucial and and if you’re in a crunch out there as an investor, I’m telling you right now, get in your car and go driving around. Go find some some deals.
They’re everywhere. No, I love that. I love that. And I want to get you guys to pay on what I tell the people that I work with my clients. So this is, this is a strategy I use, and I think it’s, it’s like, driving for dollars with like, with purpose, right? Because sometimes when you drive for dollars, you’ll like, let me go hit that neighborhood. Let me go over there. I don’t really know where I’m going. Let me just drive around, right? I don’t know if you guys have ever done that. That’s how I did it. When I drove for dollars, I was like, let me just drive. But what I tell people do is they say we’re going to pull the Pre Foreclosure list. You’re going to hit up everyone on that list. And your goal is to get a hold of literally everybody. Okay, that’s your goal, not, not to see who cares if they want to sell or not. Just get a hold of the right person, right? So once you can get a hold of that person, you can then determine, Okay, is that person want to sell or not?
Now, if you can’t get a hold of that person, all the numbers are disconnected, or whatever, the next step is go knock on that door. Go leave a note on their door. And then while they’re out, going to do that, take that action. Then as you’re driving, you see other properties in that area, and then you mark those, and you add those to your list. So you’re going with a purpose to a property to get a hold of someone that has not been able, you’ve been not be able to connect with. And then you mark, as you go, leave a note, knock the door and you’re building up your list that way. So it’s strategically, like you’re doing two killing two birds with one stone, right? Versus just driving. And that’s, I feel like, that’s a really that’s what I did when I first started. And these are, like, I would say, tactics that you use when you’re starting out. And then obviously, as you get bigger and better and you have more money, then you go pay per click route. You go the paper lead. But in my opinion, it’s, it’s that strategy of, like, be really targeted mark as you go, and then get money to do, pay per lead, pay per click. That’s my, my opinion, guys, what? What is your response, or what are your thoughts on? What I’m telling people, I’m curious what you guys think, yeah, you’re right on you’re right on it, man, you’re right on it. And I think we should literally spend, like, a whole episode.
So one day all about driving for dollars. You know exactly how to do it. You know, what do you do after you get the lead? You know, how do you skip trace? You know, the whole entire process, so that our viewers that are listening can really walk away and go get in their car and strategically, like you said, have a strategy behind it and go driving for dollars. And there’s so many ways that you can go about it so many different strategies, but make sure that you’re not just, you know, driving all over the place. Have a strategy about it so that you can kind of target. Okay, I drove this, this area. Now let me drive this area. You know, get chunks of make it like chunks of a pie, and, you know, knock it off by like that, and make sure you’re tracking it. Love it. Jared, do you have anything you want to add to what I said and any thoughts, yeah, Nathan, you’ve brought up a very critical point that I think, I think this technique needs to be applied in more than just real estate, or more than just door knocking pre foreclosures, and that is stacking activities to do more than one thing at one time. So while you’re door knocking, sure you’re already there, you minimize your effort from having to do something else.
You can just drive for dollars on your way. It’s so effective. And by leveraging that time, you’re able to multiply what you’re able to accomplish rather than, okay, I’m just going to cold call the pre foreclosures, and then I’m going to drive for dollars separately, and then I’m going to do something else separately. Why did you’re much slower. So what I found is, and this is translated from real estate, from running my business into multiple areas of my life, is stacking do multiple useful things at the same time. Even, what I love about this business is it’s taught me a lot of life skills. So I like to even when I’m hanging out with friends of mine. Those people are in real estate, and we talk about doing deals together, and we we are able to do deals at the same time anyway. And that skill set happened from doing exactly what you’re talking about, Nathan, is I found a lead that I couldn’t get a hold of, so I went to go knock on the door or leave a door hanger or a flyer.
Why not drive for dollars while I’m out here? Why not talk to the neighbors, and you drum up serious business this way, and it’s all by making your life as most efficient as possible, rather than just knocking off one task by one task. Love it, man, I appreciate you. You saying that and elaborating on that. And you know, another great like a pro tip, is while you’re knocking doors. Let’s say you knock on somebody’s door and they’re like, man, no, I don’t want to sell. This is a great question to ask. If you’re there, be like, hey, you know, let’s find you want to sell, but I am looking to buy properties in the area. Do you know if there’s any properties or neighbors that are like, an eyesore? You don’t have to tell me, like, who it is. But I’m just curious, is there any property in the area that you would just love to see get rehabbed, because that’s what we’re looking for.
All the neighbors know. Everybody in the neighborhood knows that problem property, that house, that’s nasty, that’s bringing the values down. Every time I ask that question, they’re like, yeah, go down that street to the left. You can smell the cat, the cat pee from just the street, and they’ll, they’ll point you in the right direction. So while you’re out knocking doors, don’t always make it like, hey, I want to buy your house, because that can get kind of awkward. Sometimes you can say, hey, I’m just looking for properties. Do you by chance know of any eyesores or any problem properties here that I might be an opportunity that I could look at? Right? So that’s just a tip for for everybody that’s going to be knocking. Yeah, and my apologies, guys. I just realized that my mic was off this whole time, so my sound was probably horrible, but it’s on now. So we’re good to go. We fell our way forward throughout here. Well, I heard you. You sounded good to me. Man. Good, good. Um, all right, guys.
So we’ve done a pretty good job of talking about, like, where we get leads. You start kind of, like, with the list style. You start with, like, the lower, uh, budget activities, I would say, when you’re starting out, and then you can go scale up. Is there anything else that, like, maybe we haven’t thought of or people don’t think about the thing I want to say is just be careful. Don’t, don’t think just because you’re talking to people as leads, and they’re saying no, that all leads suck. Like it does take the right conversations and I’m tired. I hear people all the time. Oh, man, there’s no motivated sellers out there. People don’t just answer the phone and like, Thank you for calling. I’m so grateful that you called me. I’m so motivated right now to sell. I’ll sell at a discount. Like that just doesn’t happen. You have to again. Motivation just doesn’t pop out unless it’s like some crazy low hanging fruit that they have to sell tomorrow and they have to tell everyone what’s going on. You have to pull it out.
You have to gain that trust. So Sean, are do you agree? Like, is there not just, like, one specific list that’s just amazing with every call, and you’re just like, It’s the secret sauce list? Yeah, there is no secret sauce list. There’s no secret sauce guys. It’s just repetition. You gotta just plow through it. Um, like we said, it’s a numbers game. You’re going to hear us saying that quite often, because that’s what it is, and we always want to keep driving at home. It is a numbers game. The more people that you talk to, the more opportunities that you’re going to get for actual leads, and having those leads convert into closed deals for you. So it all starts with having mass amount of opportunity. Yeah, and that was a mindset shift that I had to make for and it took a very long time Sean that I thought leads there was like some magical list out there.
I was like, Man, I don’t know what is. And I would always see, as I was, like, a year or two in, I’d see brand new wholesalers getting deals, and I’d be like, how are they getting those deals? I’m better than they are. Like, I’m more skilled, bro. They were just out there doing work. And I wasn’t, yeah, right place, right time, putting in the effort. And I was probably just, like, doing a little bit here and there I get a deal, and I’d stop because I was tired. You know, you know how it is, like you say, Yeah, I’m gonna, I’m gonna scale back a little bit here. Maybe I’m going too hard in this direction. And when you take your foot off the gas, it’s just this is it takes a lot of energy to get your foot back on the gas the right way.
So trust you guys, when you get your foot on the gas, stay consistent, stay the route. It’s not going to be instant success, but know that, enjoy the journey. Enjoy the adventure of the of the journey, and you’ll you’ll be you’ll be okay. And I will say this, I think a lot of people struggle to get their first deal on wholesaling because they focus on the the wrong activities. They focus on, like not the money generating activities that lead to deals they they’ll focus well, let me get my LLC set up. Let me get when people say they got their LLC, I’m like, bro, that that who cares? Who cares if you got an LLC, right? You know, like people that focus on getting their LLC. Let me build a website. Let me build a logo for my let me find a name for my company. Bro, Sean, I can’t, Sean, I can’t tell you the last time sellers asked me the name of my company like they don’t care. They don’t care at all what company they want to they trust you. They want to work with you, and so don’t and that’s what people do.
They want to gravitate towards the easy thing. So the thing, the way to get a deal and to consistently get deals, is to consistently do the money generating activities, which is get leads, talk to them and then take them through the sales process. Simple as that, but it’s not simple to do. Well, it is simple to do, but it’s not simple because you have to do it. You have to work. It’s not easy to have to always continuously wake up every morning and make those calls or take that action. But that’s what gets you paid. That’s it. You’re not going to see instant gratification. It’s not going to be instant success. Like Nathan said, you could it might take two calls and you get a deal. I mean, it happens all the time, but it could take 2000 and if you’re not willing to go that go, you know, if you’re not preparing yourself up front, you’re going to set yourself up for for mental failure, burnout, you’re going to try it, and you can tell this doesn’t work. And there’s a bear that one of our mentors talks about you, you gotta let that bear work for you or or it’s going to be working against you.
And that bear is B, E, A, R, and that is, your beliefs lead to emotions, which lead to actions, which lead to results which substantiate your beliefs. So if you’re not getting the results you’re seeking, you might want to focus on those beliefs. It’s true, man, beliefs do dictate what you do and the results you get. So now I think we’ve done a good job, man. And there’s so many different ways to get leads. And I will say this, you know, I could go on for for hours, but the thing is, there’s so many different ways to get leads that is another issue that keeps people from succeeding is they will try to dabble in absentee owners. Ah, this doesn’t work. Let me dabble in tax liens. Let me dabble here, and they, they just try a little bit of everything, and it’s not enough, and it’s not consistent enough. When they don’t see the results, and they’re like, this doesn’t work, where, if you just stay focused on, let’s just say probates.
Just pull the probate list. Stay consistent. Keep mailing, keep calling, keep reaching out to those people with the right messaging. You’re going to see results because people in probates, they’re they’re going to sell that are going through probate. So would you agree on that? Sean, 100% when you’re first getting started, you want to go an inch wide and a mile deep. You don’t want to be a mile wide and an inch deep and everything. You’re not doing anything. It’s just a waste of time. Remember that an inch wide and a mile deep, and that’ll save you some time and money. That’s good. And saving money is so important in the beginning, dude, because, like, me 10k deep, or I went, what is that? That’s wide and deep? I just went. I went wild, uh, 10k and mailers when I first started, didn’t get a deal first of all, because I didn’t really know how to have that conversation. So I was too ambitious with the spend, and I didn’t really know how to spend it. Maybe I sent the wrong materials, but I sent the wrong list. Like, be careful, because you don’t want to just be like, Oh, I just had to pay money and I’ll get a deal. It’s not like, hey, money, money returned. You have to have the skill sets to convert too. So we’re just making sure. I’m just giving you guys a sauce where it’s it’s not like, put this in get this in return, unless you have the skill sets, right? That’s it, man, you hit it on the head.
All right. Sean, will you have anything you want to say? No, Jared has been in and out. We appreciate his support. Next time, hopefully his internet will be be a little bit more consistent, like we’re talking about, indeed, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, man, um, guys, it’s on our final part, and words, just go out there and make it happen. Be consistent. Stay focused, like Nathan is saying, man, don’t waste your time on things that make no sense at all, like thinking of a good name. You know you’re spending two or three weeks thinking of a good name. You ask all your family and friends. You make up two or three logos, you get all their opinions. These things don’t matter. No one cares. Your family and friends are not going to be the ones that make you you know that you’re going to change your lifestyle. It’s going to be your business.
This and your business acumen and how you operate your business, that do those things. So put yourself in the position to learn, grow, you know, get yourself a coach, get yourself a mentor, and you’ll be, you’ll be better suited to success that way. Bro, that’s so funny, man. I remember when I started my business, I spent like, like you just said, two weeks low everything on my my business, thinking I just made the best name that people were going to serve. So ridiculous. Well, hey guys. Nathan Payne here again, painting this flipping, go to painless flipping. Com, if you need any help, that’s that’s what I do. I focus on working with people to help them get their first or next deal. We walk people through their deals. So truly, a one on one mentorship where we hold your hand. That’s what I do. And Sean, where can they reach out to you if they need a, you know, any of your services on the VA front guys, if you guys are looking for a professionally trained, monitored, managed, virtual assistant, that’ll help you, you know, scale your business up without spending a ton of money. Hand on over to REIworldsolutions.com let me know that you saw me here with Nathan.
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